Showing posts with label all blacks v south africa. Show all posts
Showing posts with label all blacks v south africa. Show all posts

Monday, September 9, 2024

All Blacks Loose Second South Africa Match

The All Blacks have fallen short against the South Africans for a second straight week going down 18-12 in Cape Town on Sunday morning. The All Blacks had led 9-3 at half time but conceded two tries to South Africa and saw prop Tyrel Lomax yellow carded late in the match for a late tackle. First five Damian McKenzie missed a late penalty shot to take the lead before substitute hooker Malcolm Marx scored South Africa's second try to seal the match.

New Zealand: 12

Penalties: Damian McKenzie 4

South Africa: 18

Tries: Siya Kolisi, Malcolm Marx, Conversions: Handre Pollard, Penalties: Pollard, Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu

Thursday, September 5, 2024

All Blacks Named For Second South Africa Match

All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has made several changes to his side for the second Rugby Championship match against South Africa this Sunday morning, 3.00am NZT.

Robertson has made four changes to his starting side and one in the reserves, with both Ethan Blackadder and Caleb Clarke are unavailable through injury. Wallace Sititi gets his first start at the run on side at blindside flanker, and Cortez Ratima gains his second test start at halfback with TJ Perenara dropping to the reserves. In the backs wings Mark Tele’a and Sevu Reece start, with Will Jordan moving to fullback, and Beauden Barrett dropping to the reserves.

New Zealand All Blacks:  


1.    Tamaiti Williams
2.    Codie Taylor
3.    Tyrel Lomax 
4.    Scott Barrett (C) 
5.    Tupou Vaa’i 
6.    Wallace Sititi  
7.    Sam Cane  
8.    Ardie Savea (VC) 
9.    Cortez Ratima  
10.  Damian McKenzie
11.  Mark Tele’a
12.  Jordie Barrett (VC) 
13.  Rieko Ioane
14.  Sevu Reece 
15.  Will Jordan 
 
16. Asafo Aumua 
17. Ofa Tu’ungafasi 
18. Fletcher Newell
19. Sam Darry 
20. Luke Jacobson 
21. TJ Perenara
22. Anton Lienert-Brown
23. Beauden Barrett

 


Monday, September 2, 2024

All Blacks Go Down Against South Africa

The All Blacks have suffered a narrow 31-27 loss to South Africa at Ellis Park after leading late in the match. The All Blacks led 12-11 at half time but ill-discipline and a 14-5 penalty count against them proved crucial after they surrendered a 27-17 lead with 13 minutes to go. It did not help with the awarding of a controversial try earlier that the bunker had confirmed, although replays showed hooker Bongi Mbonambi clearly loosing the ball in his scoring action.


New Zealand: 27 

Tries: Codie Taylor, Caleb Clarke 2, Jordie Barrett, Conversions: Damian McKenzie 2, Penalty: McKenzie 

South Africa: 31 

Tries: Bongi Mbonambi, Kwagga Smith, Grant Williams, Conversions: Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu 2, Penalties: Feinberg-Mngomezulu 4

Thursday, August 22, 2024

All Blacks Assistant Coach Leon MacDonald Quits

All Blacks assistant coach Leon MacDonald has resigned from his position, and will not travel with the All Blacks to South Africa for the Rugby Championship matches. Fronting media on Thursday, coach Scott Robertson has said a difference in views on coaching the All Blacks saw MacDonald step away. MacDonald will not be replaced, with current assistant coach Scott Hansen and contact skills coach Tamati Ellison taking a greater workload until the end of the season.

Tuesday, October 31, 2023

Narrow Loss For All Blacks In Rugby World Cup Final

The All Blacks have suffered a narrow 12-11 loss to South Africa in the Rugby World Cup final. The biggest talking point from the match was the yellow card which was upgraded to red for captain Sam Cane after a 29th minute tackle resulted in a head clash, meaning he became the first person sent off in a Rugby World Cup final match. 
The third match official has been criticized for being inconsistent after South African captain Siya Kolisi was also yellow carded in the 46th minute for a similar tackle but it was not upgraded to red by the TMO. The All Blacks also lost flanker Shannon Frizell to a yellow card in only the third minute of the match after falling on the leg of a South African player in a tackle was deemed illegal.  
The All Blacks had several chances in the second half, with the TMO involved again by ruling out a Aaron Smith try after an earlier knock on, after referee Wayne Barnes had said play on. A missed conversion from the Beauden Barrett try and a late penalty shot were both wide which could have sealed a win.

The All Blacks will have new coach Scott Robertson replacing Ian Foster from this week, while they are also losing Sam Whitelock, Brodie Retallick, Aaron Smith, Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo'unga and Shannon Frizell to overseas club's, while Dane Coles is retiring.


New Zealand All Blacks: 11 

Try: Beauden Barrett, Penalties: Richie Mo'unga 2 

South Africa: 12 

Penalties: Handre Pollard 4

Friday, October 27, 2023

All Blacks Named For Rugby World Cup Final

All Blacks coach Ian Foster has named his side to face South Africa in the 2023 Rugby World Cup Final at Stade de France in Paris on Sunday morning 8.00am NZT.

Foster has put Brodie Retallick into start at lock, with Sam Whitelock in the reserves, while Samisoni Taukei’aho will be the reserve hooker with Danes Coles not included in the match 23. Other changes to the reserves see Nepo Laulala replace Fletcher Newell.

New Zealand All Blacks: 

Beauden Barrett, Will Jordan, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Mark Telea, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith; Ardie Savea, Sam Cane (c). Shannon Frizell, Scott Barrett, Brodie Retallick, Tyrel Lomax, Codie Taylor, Ethan de Groot. 

Reserves: 

Samisoni Taukei’aho, Tamaiti Williams, Nepo Laulala, Sam Whitelock, Dalton Papalii, Finlay Christie, Damian McKenzie, Anton Lienert-Brown.


South Africa: 

15 Damian Willemse, 14 Kurt-Lee Arendse, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Cheslin Kolbe, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Franco Mostert, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Steven Kitshoff.

Reserves: 

16 Deon Fourie, 17 Ox Nche, 18 Trevor Nyakane, 19 Jean Kleyn, 20 RG Snyman, 21 Kwagga Smith, 22 Jasper Wiese, 23 Willie Le Roux.

Sunday, August 27, 2023

All Blacks Lose To South Africa

The All Blacks have not had the best dress rehearsal for the Rugby World Cup with a 35-7 loss to South Africa at Twickenham on Saturday. They conceded five tries to one, and had lock Scott Barrett sent off in the first half after getting two yellow cards. Playing with 14 men for the remainder of the match, coach Ian Foster was forced to bring on replacement lock Tupou Vaai' in place of blindside Luke Jacobson to compete in the lineouts. The All Blacks also lost prop Tyrel Lomax to a leg cut early in the match that needed 30 stitches, putting him in doubt for the RWC opening match against France. Any possible suspension of Barrett would put pressure on the All Blacks with Brodie Retallick still out several weeks with his knee injury from the Dunedin test.

New Zealand All Blacks: 7

Try: Cam Roigard, Conversion: Richie Mo'unga

South Africa: 35

Tries: Siya Kolisi, Kurt-Lee Arendse, Malcolm Marx, Bongi Mbonambi, Kwagga Smith, Conversions: Manie Libbok 5

Wednesday, August 23, 2023

All Blacks Named To Face South Africa At Twickenham

All Blacks coach Ian Foster has named a strong side to face South Africa at Twickenham on Saturday morning in their final match before the Rugby World Cup. Foster has named Luke Jacobson at blindside with Shannon Frizell out injured, and also halfback Cam Roigard on the reserves bench.


All Blacks: 

Beauden Barrett, Will Jordan, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Mark Telea, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith; Ardie Savea, Sam Cane (ct), Luke Jacobson, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock, Tyrel Lomax, Dane Coles, Ethan de Groot. 

Reserves: 

Samisoni Taukei’aho, Tamaiti Williams, Fletcher Newell, Josh Lord, Tupou Vaa’i, Dalton Papalii, Cam Roidard, Anton Lienert-Brown

Sunday, July 16, 2023

All Blacks Win Against South Africa

The All Blacks have continued their winning ways after defeating South Africa 35-20 at Auckland's Mt Smart Stadium on Saturday night. The All Blacks started fast with first half tries to Aaron Smith and Shannon Frizell and led 20-3 at half time. South Africa struck back in the second half reducing the gap but New Zealand extended the lead with further tires to Will Jordan and Richi Mo'unga. The All Blacks play Australia next in the Rugby Championship in Melbourne on 29th July.

New Zealand: 35

Tries: Aaron Smith, Shannon Frizell, Will Jordan, Richi Mo'unga, Conversions: Mo'unga 3, Penalties: Mo'unga 2  

South Africa: 20 

Tries: Malcolm Marx, Cheslin Kolbe, Kwagga Smith, Conversion: Kolbe, Penalty: Faf de Klerk 

Wednesday, July 12, 2023

All Blacks Named To Face South Africa

All Black coach Ian Foster has named his side to face South Africa at Auckland's Mt Smart Stadium on Saturday night, 7.05pm. At first five Richie Moúnga replaces Damian McKenzie, while wingers Will Jordan and Mark Telea, replace Caleb Clarke and Emoni Narawa. In the forwards Codie Taylor replaces Dane Coles at hooker, and Brodie Retallick starts at lock in place of Josh Lord.


New Zealand All Blacks: 

Beauden Barrett, Will Jordan, Rieko Ioane, Jordie Barrett, Mark Telea, Richie Mo’unga, Aaron Smith, Ardie Savea, Sam Cane (capt), Shannon Frizell, Scott Barrett, Brodie Retallick, Tyrel Lomax, Codie Taylor, Ethan de Groot. 

Reserves: Samisoni Taukei’aho, Tamaiti Williams, Nepo Laulala, Tupou Vaa’i, Dalton Papali’i, Finlay Christie, Braydon Ennor, Caleb Clarke.


South Africa: 

Willie le Roux, Cheslin Kolbe, Lukhanyo Am, Damian de Allende, Makazole Mapimpi, Damian Willemse, Faf de Klerk, Jasper Wiese, Franco Mostert, Kwagga Smith, Lood de Jager, Eben Etzebeth (capt), Frans Malherbe, Bongi Mbonambi, Steven Kitshoff. 

Reserves: Malcolm Marx, Thomas du Toit, Vincent Koch, RG Snyman, Pieter Steph du Toit, Duane Vermeulen, Grant Williams, Manie Libbok.


Tuesday, July 11, 2023

South Africa Named To Face All Blacks

South African coach Jacques Nienaber has named his side to face the All Blacks at Auckland Mt Smart Stadium on Saturday

South Africa:

1.Steven Kitshoff, 2.Bongi Mbonambi, 3.Frans Malherbe, 4.Eben Etzebeth (c), 5.Lood de Jager, 6.Kwagga Smith, 7.Franco Mostert, 8.Jasper Wiese, 9.Faf de Klerk, 10.Damian Willemse, 11.Makazole Mapimpi, 12.Damian de Allende, 13.Lukhano Am, 14.Cheslin Kolbe, 15.Willie le Roux.

Reserves: 

16.Malcolm Marx, 17.Thomas du Toit, 18.Vincent Koch, 19.RG Snyman, 20.Pieter-Steph du Toit, 21.Duane Vermeulen, 22.Grant Williams, 23.Manie Libbok.

Wednesday, June 21, 2023

All Blacks And All Blacks XV Sides Named

All Black selectors Ian Foster, Jason Ryan and Joe Schmidt have named their squad to contest the Lipovitan-D Rugby Championship.

There were many players unavailable, with Angus Ta’avao, Ethan Blackadder, Cullen Grace, David Havili, Joe Moody, George Bower, Patrick Tuipulotu, Quinn Tupaea, Sevu Reece, TJ Perenara out with injury, while Chiefs winger Shaun Stevenson has been added for injury cover to Mark Talea for the early parts of the Championship

Hookers:
Codie Taylor, Dane Coles, Samisoni Taukei’aho 

Props:
Ethan de Groot, Fletcher Newell, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Tamaiti Williams, Tyrel Lomax 

Locks:
Brodie Retallick, Josh Lord, Samuel Whitelock, Scott Barrett, Tupou Vaa’i 

Loose forwards:
Ardie Savea, Dalton Papali’i, Luke Jacobson, Sam Cane (c), Samipeni Finau, Shannon Frizell 

Halfbacks:
Aaron Smith, Finlay Christie, Cam Roigard, 

First-five eighths:
Beauden Barrett, Damian McKenzie, Richie Mo’unga 

Midfielders:
Anton Lienert-Brown, Jordie Barrett, Rieko Ioane, Braydon Ennor, Dallas McLeod 

Outside backs:
Caleb Clarke, Emoni Narawa, Leicester Fainga’anuku, Mark Telea, Will Jordan 

Week 1 vs. Argentina, Saturday 8 July, 4:10pm (7:10am, Sunday 9 July NZT), Estadio Malvinas, Mendoza

Week 2 vs. South Africa, Saturday 15 July, 7.05pm, Go Media Stadium Mt Smart, Auckland

Week 3 vs. Australia, Saturday 29 July, 7.45PM (9:45pm NZT), Melbourne Cricket Ground, Melbourne

Week 4 v Australia, Saturday 5 August, 2.35PM, Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin


The All Blacks XV was also named to play two matches in Japan, with Leon MacDonald as head coach and assisted by Clayton McMillan and Scott Hansen.

Props
Jermaine Ainsley, Oli Jager, Tevita Mafileo, Xavier Numia, Aidan Ross

Hookers
Asafo Aumua, Ricky Riccitelli, Tyrone Thompson

Locks
Naitoa Ah Kuoi, Quinten Strange, Isaia Walker-Leawere

Loose Forwards
Billy Harmon, Akira Ioane, Du’Plessis Kirifi, Christian Lio-Willie, Pita Gus Sowakula, Cameron Suafoa 

Halfbacks
Folau Fakatava, Brad Weber 

First-five-eighths
Brett Cameron, Stephen Perofeta 

Midfielders
Jack Goodhue, Alex Nankivell, Billy Proctor, Bailyn Sullivan 

Outside Backs
Sam Gilbert, AJ Lam, Ruben Love, Etene Nanai-Seturo, Jona Nareki 

Saturday 8 July, Japan XV v All Blacks XV, 8.00pm, Chichibunomiya Rugby Stadium, Tokyo

Saturday 15 July, Brave Blossoms v All Blacks XV, 9.05pm  Egao Kenko Stadiu, Kumamoto

Sunday, August 14, 2022

All Blacks Win Over South Africa

The All Blacks have silenced their critic's in the short term, with a 35-23 win at Ellis Park in Johannesburg on Sunday morning, snapping a three game losing streak. Under pressure coach Ian Foster is still uncertain as coach going forward, with a New Zealand Rugby meeting this week expected to discuss the recent losses. On Sunday morning chief executive Mark Robinson was interviewed and would not commit to saying that Foster would remain coach for the remainder of the Rugby Championship against Argentina and Australia.

New Zealand All Blacks: 35

Tries: Sam Cane, Samisoni Taukei'aho, David Havili, Scott Barrett, Conversions: Richie Mo'unga 3, Penalties: Mo'unga 3

South Africa: 23

Tries: Lukhanyo Am, Makazole Mapimpi, Conversions: Handré Pollard 2, Penalties: Pollard 3


Wednesday, August 10, 2022

NZ All Blacks Suffer Another Loss

The All Blacks are looking to this weeks test against South Africa at Ellis Park as a must win after losing the latest test 26-12. All the talk has been around whether coach Ian Foster will still have a job after another loss, but the players must bear a lot of responsibility for the loss with basic handling errors on both attack and defense. The latest match also saw the South Africans tactics come into question, with numerous bombs peppering the All Blacks and several instances where the South Africans did not even attempt to catch the ball, but took All Blacks players out in mid-air. South African winger Kurt-Lee Arendse was red carded in the second half and later suspended for three matches after he hit Beauden Barrett in the air when he jumped for the ball, and was flipped resulting in him landing on his neck.


South Africa: 26

Tries: Kurt-Lee Arendse, Willie Le Roux, Conversions: Handré Pollard 2, Penalties: Pollard 3, Drop Goal: Pollard.

New Zealand: 12

Try: Shannon Frizell, Conversion: Richie Mo'unga  Penalty: Jordie Barrett


Thursday, July 21, 2022

All Blacks Squad Named For Rugby Championship In South Africa

The widespread expectation of changes to the All Blacks after last weeks series loss to Ireland has not happened with the naming of the touring squad to South Africa for the two Rugby Championship matches.

Coach Ian Foster has named a largely unchanged squad, with Sam Cane retained as captain. He has said there are some changes coming from within the side, but would only confirm that Joe Schmidt was an independent selector, and that he would not be travelling to South Africa. The only new players returning into the squad are prop Ethan De Groot and loose forward Shannon Frizell.

Hookers

Dane Coles, Samisoni Taukeiaho, Codie Taylor 


Props

Aidan Ross, George Bower, Nepo Laulala, Ofa Tu’ungafasi, Ethan de Groot, Angus Ta’avao 


Locks

Scott Barrett, Brodie Retallick, Patrick Tuipulotu, Tupou Vaa’i, Samuel Whitelock 


Loose Forwards

Sam Cane (c), Shannon Frizell, Akira Ioane, Dalton Papalii, Ardie Savea, Hoskins Sotutu 


Halfbacks

Finlay Christie, Folau Fakatava, Aaron Smith 


First five–eighths

Beauden Barrett, Richie Mo’unga, Stephen Perofeta


Midfielders

Jack Goodhue, David Havili, Rieko Ioane, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck, Quinn Tupaea 


Outside backs

Jordie Barrett, Caleb Clarke, Leicester Fainga’anuku, Will Jordan, Sevu Reece 


Replacement players travelling to South Africa:

Josh Dickson, Braydon Ennor, Tyrel Lomax

Sunday, October 3, 2021

All Blacks Suffer First Defeat Of Season

The All Blacks have suffered their first defeat of the 2021 season with a 31-29 loss to South Africa on Saturday night in the final match of the Rugby Championship. 

The All Blacks scored three tries to two, but it was a reversal from last week where South Africa kicked the late penalty to win the match. The All Blacks had led 20-14 at half time after tries to Sevu Reece, Ardie Savea, and Brad Weber even though South Africa had more possession and territory. The second half saw South Africa bounce back with penalties to Handré Pollard and Elton Jantjies, and a try to Makazole Mapimpi to go out to a 25-20 lead before two penalties to Jordie Barrett put them back in front. In the remaining minutes Jantjies kicked a dropped goal to go ahead before Barrett kicked a 78th minute penalty for a 29-28 lead. The All Blacks had possession in the final minute of the match, but conceded a turnover and then a penalty to gift Jantjies a penalty out in front of the post in injury time.

New Zealand All Blacks: 29 

Tries: Sevu Reece, Ardie Savea, Brad Weber, Conversion: Jordie Barrett, Penalties: Jordie Barrett 4

South Africa 31 

Tries: Damian D'Allende, Makazole Mapimpi Penalties: Handré Pollard 4, Elton Jantjies 2, Dropped Goal:  Elton Jantjies


Thursday, September 30, 2021

All Blacks Named For Second South Africa Match

All Blacks coach Ian Foster has named his side to face South Africa at Gold Coast's CBUS Stadium on Saturday 2 October, in their second match of the 2021 Fortinet Rugby Championship.
In the forwards, there is one change from last week, where Luke Jacobson, who was a late withdrawal due to illness replaces Ethan Blackadder, with Asafo Aumua and George Bower coming on to the reserves bench in place of Samisoni Taukei’aho and Karl Tu’inukuafe
In the backs, Brad Weber starts at halfback with TJ Perenara dropping to the reserves, Anton Lienert-Brown returns from a hamstring strain at centre with Rieko Ioane moving to the left wing, and Sevu Reece starts on the right wing. Richie Mo'unga who has rejoined the team from New Zealand is named on the reserves bench with Damian McKenzie, while both Will Jordan and George Bridge drop out of the match 23.

New Zealand All Blacks:

1. Joe Moody
2. Codie Taylor
3. Nepo Laulala
4. Brodie Retallick
5. Scott Barrett
6. Akira Ioane 
7. Ardie Savea (c)
8. Luke Jacobson
9. Brad Weber 
10. Beauden Barrett 
11. Rieko Ioane 
12. David Havili
13. Anton Lienert-Brown 
14. Sevu Reece 
15. Jordie Barrett 

Reserves:

16. Asafo Aumua 
17. George Bower
18. Ofa Tuungafasi 
19. Patrick Tuipulotu 
20. Ethan Blackadder 
21. TJ Perenara 
22. Richie Mo’unga 
23. Damian McKenzie

Tuesday, September 28, 2021

All Blacks Win Against South Africa

In the 100th test match between the sides, the New Zealand All Blacks have beaten South Africa 19-17 in Townsville on Saturday night. In a closely fought match, it was the boot of Jordie Barrett who secured the victory with a 78th minute penalty kick. The South African tactics of continually kicking for position or high balls worked to some degree, with their try to Sbu Nkosi coming off a dropped ball near the line by winger George Bridge. 

The All Blacks conceded 23 turnovers to eight from South Africa, carried for 378 metres to South Africa's 236, passed the ball 141 times to South Africa's 65, made 12 offloads to one, kicked 18 times to South Africa's 38 and missed 14 tackles to South Africa's 23.

New Zealand All Blacks: 19

Try: Will Jordan, Conversion: Jordie Barrett, Penalties: Jordie Barett 4

South Africa: 17

Try: Sbu Nkosi, Penalties: Handre Pollard 4


The next 2021 Rugby Championship match for the All Blacks is their second match against South Africa at Gold Coast's CBUS Stadium on Saturday night 11.05pm.


Wednesday, September 22, 2021

All Blacks Named To Face South Africa

All Blacks coach Ian Foster has named his side to face South Africa in their Rugby Championship match in Townsville on Saturday night. 

In the forward pack, there are multiple changes with Nepo Laulala and Codie Taylor in at prop and hooker, Scott Barrett and Brodie Retallick paired at lock, Akira Ioane at blindside and Luke Jacobson at number eight, while prop Joe Moody and captain Ardie Savea are the only ones retained from last week.

In the backs, Jordie Barrett retains his place at fullback, with brother Beauden in at first five, and Rieko Ioane in paired with David Havili in the centres with Anton Liernert Brown out with a hamstring strain.

New Zealand All Blacks: 

Jordie Barrett, Will Jordan, Rieko Ioane, David Havili, George Bridge, Beauden Barrett, TJ Perenara, Luke Jacobson, Ardie Savea (c), Akira Ioane, Scott Barrett, Brodie Retallick, Nepo Laulala, Codie Taylor, Joe Moody. 

Reserves: 

Samisoni Taukei’aho, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Ofa Tuungafasi, Patrick Tuipulotu, Ethan Blackadder, Brad Weber, Damian McKenzie, Quinn Tupaea.


Tuesday, September 21, 2021

Springbok's Side Named To Face All Blacks

South Africa rugby coach Jacques Nienaber has named his side to face the All Blacks at QLD Country Back Stadium in Townsville on Saturday night.

Nienaber has made five changes to his squad that lost 30-17 against Australia last weekend, with lock Lood de Jager returning from concussion, Trevor Nyakane starting at loosehead prop and Kwagga Smith starting at blindside flanker in place of Franco Mostert who drops to the bench. Also coming onto the reserves bench are Elton Jantjies and Frans Steyn to provide cover in the backs.

South Africa Springboks Team:

1 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 3 Frans Malherbe, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 5 Lood de Jager, 6 Siya Kolisi (capt), 7 Kwagga Smith, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 9 Faf de Klerk, 10 Handre Pollard, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 12 Damian de Allende, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 14 Sbu Nkosi, 15 Willie le Roux.

Reserves: 

16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Franco Mostert, 20 Marco van Staden, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Elton Jantjies, 23 Frans Steyn.